EPA
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: After the States cleaned up, the EPA was created to take credit. Then screw things up.
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| Government - I'm not someone who thinks the government is all bad, nor is it all good. Controlling something through government replaces a commerce based process (free market) and people's ability to vote with their wallet, with a political process where the people get less control and more bureaucracy. But the help is seen, the harm is unseed, so many think of it as a net win. |
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History[edit | edit source]
Pointing out that most of the clean-ups happened at the state level before we had an EPA, and many of the EPA failures may be true, but they will get you disinvited from many granola munchers parties in the People's Republic of Hollywood (or California). But heck, I care about the facts and how to really help the environment, more than watermelon agenda of using the environment as an excuse to create socialism. Not because I hate clean air or water, I think both are great. I just think that people need to understand that without a bureaucratic federal monstrosity, we'd still have state and local improvements (maybe more), with far less cost. Most companies don't clean up because of fear of the EPA, but fear of their customers or legal liability if they get caught.
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Conclusion[edit | edit source]
The EPA's been a boondoggle, but mere math, logic, economics, history, will never convince anyone that wants to believe otherwise. The same way some people think the TSA keeps them safe. It might keep them slightly safer than nothing, but far less safe than a more reasonable/competently designed alternative.
- I'm not someone who thinks the government is all bad or is all good. Nor is the EPA.
- Controlling something through government is just a political process that increases bureaucracy: a series of rules, processes, hierarchies that slow down progress (red-tape), but increase potential accountability and order.
- Good or bad, it is a balance between the needs of the problem and cost of the solution: did you get the implementation right?
- If it could be done with industry cooperative and/or private licensing organizations, at a small fraction the size, with more accountability. Wouldn't that be better?
- If someone can't ask these questions sincerely, then they're not up for a discussion on public policy, and are incapable of understanding how to avoid the moral hazard in the future.
So I point out the abuses/problems, to understand what we've been lied to about, and what we might want to watch for in the future -- and to think about those real economic and societal balances. How we can make real progress towards something more beneficial to society, instead of just leftist "progress" (progressive) just meaning bigger government with less individual liberty and less government accountability.
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🔗 External Links
- http://www.redstate.com/2011/12/10/when-did-the-epa-jump-the-shark
- http://reason.com/blog/2017/03/21/relax-gutting-the-epa-wont-make-your-air
- https://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/federal-government-give-americans-clean-air/
- https://www.lion.com/lion-news/november-2016/pre-epa-us-environmental-laws-before-1970
- https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/-air-quality-in-america_134905535523.pdf